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	<description>Yeah, I&#039;m cranky.  That&#039;s kinda the point...</description>
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		<title>By: CheeseWhiz</title>
		<link>http://www.thegrouchygamer.com/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>CheeseWhiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a new player to Vanguard, and after reading these stories, it makes me wonder in awe at what could have been accomplished if a solid 4 years of development, good management, and good tools had been in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a new player to Vanguard, and after reading these stories, it makes me wonder in awe at what could have been accomplished if a solid 4 years of development, good management, and good tools had been in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Melonhead</title>
		<link>http://www.thegrouchygamer.com/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Melonhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Genda

I&#039;m not saying everything he is going to do is going to right on, but you have to give the man credit for some of the things he has done and the influence he has had on these games, rather than only point out the flaws and bash him for the things he has supposedly done, or lack there of, as you tend to do, solely based on hearsay. Heh, as for &quot;slurping the Kool-Aid,&quot; there isn&#039;t much to be slurped as of late. I don&#039;t claim to be a McQuaid lover, but I do read alot of his theories and about &quot;the vision&quot; and it seems to me that they are almost spot-on with what the intelligent base of MMORPG gamers wants. Forget the sausage, where&#039;s the love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Genda</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying everything he is going to do is going to right on, but you have to give the man credit for some of the things he has done and the influence he has had on these games, rather than only point out the flaws and bash him for the things he has supposedly done, or lack there of, as you tend to do, solely based on hearsay. Heh, as for &#8220;slurping the Kool-Aid,&#8221; there isn&#8217;t much to be slurped as of late. I don&#8217;t claim to be a McQuaid lover, but I do read alot of his theories and about &#8220;the vision&#8221; and it seems to me that they are almost spot-on with what the intelligent base of MMORPG gamers wants. Forget the sausage, where&#8217;s the love?</p>
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		<title>By: Genda</title>
		<link>http://www.thegrouchygamer.com/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Genda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Melonhead

Just to set the record straight, I never had a bias against Brad until all this stuff happened.  I, like you, had slurped the Kool Aid and thought whatever he was going to do was going to be right on.  Unfortunately that didn&#039;t happen and I felt compelled to report my findings and my opinions here.

On the subject of supporting the game, I do.  While I don&#039;t actively play I do have a station pass with Vanguard on it, and I operate one of the longest-running fansites (since March of 2005) for Vanguard that is still out there.  So I&#039;ve been supporting Vanguard by either discussing it on their forums, running a fansite, playing the game, or through other methods since 2003.

I say all this to say don&#039;t discount my criticism of Brad as someone who was a long time Brad hater.  Think of me as a long-time Brad supporter who finally saw the sausage being made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Melonhead</p>
<p>Just to set the record straight, I never had a bias against Brad until all this stuff happened.  I, like you, had slurped the Kool Aid and thought whatever he was going to do was going to be right on.  Unfortunately that didn&#8217;t happen and I felt compelled to report my findings and my opinions here.</p>
<p>On the subject of supporting the game, I do.  While I don&#8217;t actively play I do have a station pass with Vanguard on it, and I operate one of the longest-running fansites (since March of 2005) for Vanguard that is still out there.  So I&#8217;ve been supporting Vanguard by either discussing it on their forums, running a fansite, playing the game, or through other methods since 2003.</p>
<p>I say all this to say don&#8217;t discount my criticism of Brad as someone who was a long time Brad hater.  Think of me as a long-time Brad supporter who finally saw the sausage being made.</p>
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		<title>By: Melonhead</title>
		<link>http://www.thegrouchygamer.com/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Melonhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy reading your site but it would seem you have quite a bias against Brad McQuaid, based solely on what you&#039;ve heard from disgruntled employees, which is ok with me, but regardless of his apparently &quot;shitty&quot; management skills, he still has the best theory or &quot;vision&quot; on MMORPG games and I don&#039;t believe too many avid MMO gamers would disagree with that statement. I feel that if you see what you like in a game and you want to see it progress, regardless of how bad it has been fucked up, don&#039;t bitch about it, support it. Anyhow, thanks for the read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading your site but it would seem you have quite a bias against Brad McQuaid, based solely on what you&#8217;ve heard from disgruntled employees, which is ok with me, but regardless of his apparently &#8220;shitty&#8221; management skills, he still has the best theory or &#8220;vision&#8221; on MMORPG games and I don&#8217;t believe too many avid MMO gamers would disagree with that statement. I feel that if you see what you like in a game and you want to see it progress, regardless of how bad it has been fucked up, don&#8217;t bitch about it, support it. Anyhow, thanks for the read.</p>
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		<title>By: Will W.</title>
		<link>http://www.thegrouchygamer.com/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Will W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this, I&#039;m speechless.

Nice read!

This would explain the crappy starting areas in Vanguard. 

So, basically, this game was dev&#039;d in a year... props to those newbie devs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this, I&#8217;m speechless.</p>
<p>Nice read!</p>
<p>This would explain the crappy starting areas in Vanguard. </p>
<p>So, basically, this game was dev&#8217;d in a year&#8230; props to those newbie devs?</p>
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		<title>By: Nath'aal</title>
		<link>http://www.thegrouchygamer.com/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Nath'aal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey G,
Nice &quot;RE:&quot; from you.  To hear this all substantiated makes it all quite damning.  

I guess the only thing left for me to wonder is are we ever going to get the &quot;anti-WoW&quot;/&quot;more like EQ1&quot; game that so many of us thought VG would be?  I would reckon not after this failure...  What a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey G,<br />
Nice &#8220;RE:&#8221; from you.  To hear this all substantiated makes it all quite damning.  </p>
<p>I guess the only thing left for me to wonder is are we ever going to get the &#8220;anti-WoW&#8221;/&#8221;more like EQ1&#8243; game that so many of us thought VG would be?  I would reckon not after this failure&#8230;  What a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: jtoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t really matter whose fault it is at this point.  All the affiliate sites got burned, the fans got burned and now it looks like SOE got burned also. Pointing fingers and keeping the flames going isn&#039;t going to help anything.    I say let it die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t really matter whose fault it is at this point.  All the affiliate sites got burned, the fans got burned and now it looks like SOE got burned also. Pointing fingers and keeping the flames going isn&#8217;t going to help anything.    I say let it die.</p>
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		<title>By: Sedje</title>
		<link>http://www.thegrouchygamer.com/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Sedje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve dealt with people in the gaming industry in the past and have a few close friends working at MS and EA Games and I have to say that the stuff this guy has posted seems to be the standard run of the mill office drama to some extent. I am in no way saying that it wasn&#039;t true nor that it did not happen but lets face it, everyone thinks they can do a better job than their boss and everyone seems to think they are under appreciated. At least this guy admits he&#039;s inept and was under qualified for his job. I think if I were in his shoe&#039;s I would feel a similar level of vehemence towards Sigil and what became of it. My last company I worked with had a similiar boss who spent all year traipsing around world rather than staying in the office and adminstering the company. This meant that many of us were put into positions we were not hired to do. I ended up training and running human resources for the company when I am typically a project/department manager. I stuck with the company because I felt a level of camaraderie with my fellow employee&#039;s and I felt that if I left I would be leaving them in a bad way. I think the employee&#039;s at Sigil felt the same thing and as a result stuck with the company even though it ended up being the worst MMORPG launch since Funcom&#039;s Anarchy Online. Thank god that SOE did step in because honestly I feel they made some serious progress from what I was reading earlier about the game. 

I would also add that I just started playing Vanguard: Saga of Heroes and I must say, I&#039;m impressed. It is buggy, not even a little buggy mind you, kind of final beta buggy but that&#039;s good. This means to me that in the next few updates the game will be rock solid. Right now it is definitely filling it&#039;s role as an alternative to  the WoW Fanboi game. I was on EQ from beta till release and right now it reminds me alot of EQ Beta, where people could see where the game was headed and the impact it would have on the gaming industry. With regards to V:SOH, it will be the different elements of game play, diplomacy, crafting and adventuring that  lend to the atmosphere of the game and also most importantly, the scope of the game. Then there is as mentioned the size of the world. I still remember Ultima Online in it&#039;s infancy and thinking that was huge, then playing Asheron&#039;s Call and feeling that same rush. This game blow&#039;s them both away. It&#039;s so huge, I spent 40 minutes running nonstop from one city to another tonight and I was still in the under 20th area&#039;s.

I would say that though this may be off topic, if you haven&#039;t tried it yet but have been waiting for it to be playable, now is a good time to get in the mix. The game, though still buggy like I mentioned, is very enjoyable. I hear from alot of people who say they are happy they gave it a chance. I would add that the recidivism rate is about 80% right now from people that came back for the free month in December. Thats pretty good but I&#039;m also seeing a bunch of new players who are playing just from word of mouth from other players. The fact is people are very loyal to this game and for good reason, they took a hacked up game and finally made it into a solid MMORPG. I strongly feel that this game will only get better and with the history of SOE support for it&#039;s games, it will be around for long enough for us interested party&#039;s to enjoy.

Enuf Said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve dealt with people in the gaming industry in the past and have a few close friends working at MS and EA Games and I have to say that the stuff this guy has posted seems to be the standard run of the mill office drama to some extent. I am in no way saying that it wasn&#8217;t true nor that it did not happen but lets face it, everyone thinks they can do a better job than their boss and everyone seems to think they are under appreciated. At least this guy admits he&#8217;s inept and was under qualified for his job. I think if I were in his shoe&#8217;s I would feel a similar level of vehemence towards Sigil and what became of it. My last company I worked with had a similiar boss who spent all year traipsing around world rather than staying in the office and adminstering the company. This meant that many of us were put into positions we were not hired to do. I ended up training and running human resources for the company when I am typically a project/department manager. I stuck with the company because I felt a level of camaraderie with my fellow employee&#8217;s and I felt that if I left I would be leaving them in a bad way. I think the employee&#8217;s at Sigil felt the same thing and as a result stuck with the company even though it ended up being the worst MMORPG launch since Funcom&#8217;s Anarchy Online. Thank god that SOE did step in because honestly I feel they made some serious progress from what I was reading earlier about the game. </p>
<p>I would also add that I just started playing Vanguard: Saga of Heroes and I must say, I&#8217;m impressed. It is buggy, not even a little buggy mind you, kind of final beta buggy but that&#8217;s good. This means to me that in the next few updates the game will be rock solid. Right now it is definitely filling it&#8217;s role as an alternative to  the WoW Fanboi game. I was on EQ from beta till release and right now it reminds me alot of EQ Beta, where people could see where the game was headed and the impact it would have on the gaming industry. With regards to V:SOH, it will be the different elements of game play, diplomacy, crafting and adventuring that  lend to the atmosphere of the game and also most importantly, the scope of the game. Then there is as mentioned the size of the world. I still remember Ultima Online in it&#8217;s infancy and thinking that was huge, then playing Asheron&#8217;s Call and feeling that same rush. This game blow&#8217;s them both away. It&#8217;s so huge, I spent 40 minutes running nonstop from one city to another tonight and I was still in the under 20th area&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I would say that though this may be off topic, if you haven&#8217;t tried it yet but have been waiting for it to be playable, now is a good time to get in the mix. The game, though still buggy like I mentioned, is very enjoyable. I hear from alot of people who say they are happy they gave it a chance. I would add that the recidivism rate is about 80% right now from people that came back for the free month in December. Thats pretty good but I&#8217;m also seeing a bunch of new players who are playing just from word of mouth from other players. The fact is people are very loyal to this game and for good reason, they took a hacked up game and finally made it into a solid MMORPG. I strongly feel that this game will only get better and with the history of SOE support for it&#8217;s games, it will be around for long enough for us interested party&#8217;s to enjoy.</p>
<p>Enuf Said.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyPao</title>
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		<dc:creator>LadyPao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not in the gaming industry, so I don&#039;t really know the demographics of its employees, but I would guess, from playing games, most of them are white males in their 20s.  I could be wrong, of course, but I&#039;m thinking as I read this, Wow, sounds like a bunch of people with not a lot of teaming experience, not a lot of life experience, lots of big egos....and then the words &#039;dot com&#039; flitted across my mind...visions of the 90s...dot com startups...big drama...big failures.  Her we go again.
So I&#039;m thinking, Huh, immaturity.  We older people know better..and then I look around my office.  Gads. Same issues, just less overt drama.
So, my conclusion is, it&#039;s People Stuff: Chimps in Pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not in the gaming industry, so I don&#8217;t really know the demographics of its employees, but I would guess, from playing games, most of them are white males in their 20s.  I could be wrong, of course, but I&#8217;m thinking as I read this, Wow, sounds like a bunch of people with not a lot of teaming experience, not a lot of life experience, lots of big egos&#8230;.and then the words &#8216;dot com&#8217; flitted across my mind&#8230;visions of the 90s&#8230;dot com startups&#8230;big drama&#8230;big failures.  Her we go again.<br />
So I&#8217;m thinking, Huh, immaturity.  We older people know better..and then I look around my office.  Gads. Same issues, just less overt drama.<br />
So, my conclusion is, it&#8217;s People Stuff: Chimps in Pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucifrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucifrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Aaron - I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if that was indeed the case. SOE in my opinion are the kings of putting out mediocre product. Rather than putting a concerted effort into one or two really great games, they pump out middle-of-the-road mass produced crud 99% of the time. It&#039;s ashame considered the financial and staff resources they have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aaron &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if that was indeed the case. SOE in my opinion are the kings of putting out mediocre product. Rather than putting a concerted effort into one or two really great games, they pump out middle-of-the-road mass produced crud 99% of the time. It&#8217;s ashame considered the financial and staff resources they have.</p>
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